first, the Sheep/Goat woman.  her name is Jan.  and she was/is perfect.  No nonsense.  stayed an hour and a half, tho a couple times i made an opening for her to leave gracefully.  but she didn't.  she was

INTERESTED!!!!!!  oh, Joy!  Interested.    But in a very Plain Quiet way.  She is a Plain Quiet woman.

i know now where she lives.  over in Escondida.  i didn't catch, if she said, but that would mean she has either 20 acres or 40.  Unless something has changed that i don't know about, that's how land over there is divided.   At this time, she raises Hair Sheep,  and again, i didn't catch the breed.  but if you're interested, you can google hair sheep.  Meat sheep.  she has a steady clientele.  they basically are organic tho she is not certified.  Then, she has 4 Angora Goats left.  she is a weaver and spinner who has no time to weave and spin.  but she's kept 4.  and then, last but not least, she has 2 Nigerian Dwarf Does for her home dairy.  

She's very pragmatic.  Very serious about the meaning of Animal Husbandry.   i'll find out more in the future of her "history",  but she has tried things that just didn't work.  and she is not at all opposed to Change.   if it doesn't work, Change it.  and she has.  again, i don't know how long its taken her to reach the point she's come to.  she didn't start that way.  

i had basically 3 questions for her that i'd written down on paper.   The first was if she were going to be moving in here,  bringing 19 goats,  what would she change.  spatially.  what would she do differently.  Answer:  it's good.  it's not 20 acres.  but it's fine.  add rocks to the way back.  for hooves.  

2.  Scurs.   LONG conversation about these.  and she offered to come and help me disbud if i decide to breed for spring.  Her sheep all have horns.  because of their form, it's not an issue.  and also, because they are meat,  it's not an issue.  so..more about scurs later.  but the final thought was i should get a horse hoof trimmer from the feed store and clip them myself.   eeee.

3.  my other major question was reintegrating the two milking does and their doelings with the rest of the herd.  and she simply reitterated what i already knew…WHO KNOWS how it will go.    but the really good thing about talking with her…talking WITH her…was that things can't always be great with livestock.  stuff happens.  and she pointed out that really,  i have been incredibly lucky.  but to understand that stuff happens.  no matter how we try to cover all the possibilities.  it goes how it goes.  So, This was very very good.

and then i added a 4.  about  letting the kids become meat.  and this is a HUGE issue and i am not ready to "go there" right now.  but the talking helped me a LOT.  So…it was GREAT.  and soon, i can go visit her place.  look.  Look.  yes.

 

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and the rest of the day, when i wasn't sleeping,  it was Kantha.  there is maybe a half inch at the bottom not stitched.  i am thinking.  i don't know.  but if i leave it unstitched, it will fray.  and that fray may be very beautiful.  but here we are.  and tomorrow morning, i can begin USING her.

and i think this "cold" is really a flu.  Everything ached today.  my face.  my hands.  all my bones.  just this dull aching.  and i thought about that all day,   about how i am rarely sick and how i think it's probably a good thing,  this now and then Descending of Bad Germs that take me Out.  there's something important to understand about that.  The Goats were very kind.  Many of them came up and put their faces against me in a certain way.  i must have felt weak to them?  i don't know.  but it was nice.  this kindness from them.

 

 

 

 

 

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31 responses to “247 everything yes.”

  1. Julie Avatar
    Julie

    underneath everything described about your talk w Jan I feel your deep contentment in being validated. The absence of that must be very challenging for the types of things you take on and i am glad you got a long and deep drink of it at the well.
    i love love the dress with its embellishment, and that piece of memahoweveryouspellitdung of
    jude’s peeking through on the photo above hiw cool is that???? Goodnight Grace and your achy self….love,j

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  2. grace Avatar
    grace

    julie…yes. you are exactly right. the long and deep drink at the well. another human being. i guess if there was
    anything i would “hold against my daughter” is NOT that
    they are here, NOT that, because there was nothing else
    to do. but that she for whatever reason, can’t provide
    that well.
    so i search. and today i found.
    Megamendung. and yeah…isn’t that great?, i tried to
    get a pic in other places, but the time of day wouldn’t allow…so..here. and there She is, looking over….yes.
    how cool is that.
    and yes again, am taking my pathetic self to bed. maybe
    tomorrow??????????????????????????

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  3. Marti Avatar
    Marti

    Maybe not weak but they may have sensed a slowing up in you, I’ve seen you with them, you talk, touch, move about them, always near them, letting them know of our presence in physical ways, so maybe their coming coming up to you was reassurance as much for them as for you…

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  4. Marti Avatar
    Marti

    Did not mean to say “our presence” but Your presence although when I was with you, I was among them because I wanted to see how they would be and some of them came near me so I could touch and pet and it was good…

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  5. grace Avatar
    grace

    you will know that more when you come.

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  6. Deb G Avatar

    I was thinking validation too as I was reading your post. But also, there is something so reassuring about being a part of a community…

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  7. Judith of N. California Avatar
    Judith of N. California

    I’m near tears..so happy about Jan for you..good sensible, solid info.
    Kantha is so wonderful..happy too..even though you still are not well, your heart must feel full tonight. When critters Pay Attention, they do pick up on “signals” from us plus you’re probably throwing off different chemical smells…and that they DO pay attention to. My sheep always checked out my breath and my hair..I didn’t take offense..it was nuzzling kisses.. I loved it ! Sleep well tonight, Grace..and everyone else, too.

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  8. Nance Avatar
    Nance

    The kindness of goats …yes… That is very sweet… And compassionate. I’m glad that it felt nice to you.

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  9. Michelle in NYC Avatar

    Well…now I too can lay my head down and rest…I was worried for you…I know I shouldn’t…but, I did think it might be flu…and they CAN be vicious…so keep a close watch…there’s anabsolute help in taking homeopathic ‘influenzium’ (pellets in a small container available at Boereke and Taffle–but for your local research The Vital Force- Links to Homeopathy in the United States
    thevitalforceforhorse.com/thevitalforce/pages/homeopathy-us.html
    One tube will do. but I keep one in stock extra always. REALLY will shorten the duration in the most natural of ways. DO take it seriously if it’s flu dear Grace.
    Just lovely the way you and Jan conversed. Good. I got teary too when the goats leaned in…You are important to them…like the landscape and weather, like their mothers. You are the herd keeper.
    Bless your heart.

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  10. Michelle in NYC Avatar

    Oh–here–if you decide to get some…this source is local
    SUPPLIERS- Homeopathic pharmacies, manufacturers and suppliers
    scienceofhomeopathy.com/pharmacies.html – Cached – Similar
    NATURAL HEALTH SUPPLY Santa Fe, New Mexico Manufactures hand-
    succussed homeopathic remedies
    mail order I’m sure…and they can be taken with benefit even after the onset…
    Nite nite

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  11. Valerianna Avatar

    Wonderful to find someone who can look and see and talk. Sweet about the goats, of course they sense something with you….

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  12. Jan Avatar
    Jan

    grace, you have been doing so much. and thinking so much. and I think that yes, it is a good thing that your body decides to take an enforced rest. cold or flu just telling us to slow down. in a different way than what you’ve been trying to do otherwise. sleep well and heal well. love,

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  13. Linda Avatar

    you are in bed and it is quiet..
    sleep well. stay warm

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  14. Mo Crow Avatar

    Good goat words but gosh this Scorpio New Moon is a wild ride this year, diving into the deepness of everything.

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  15. saskia Avatar

    there is so much I want to say in response to this post, I hardly know where to begin, I’ll just start: how absolutely great that you were able to share your concerns about the goats with such a knowledgable person and how very nice of her to come and answer your questions; to me it seems as if you are looking for ways of living with the goats that are in accordance with how you view them and how the goats themselves ‘want’ to live, it’s a fine balance, a bit like a familiy (at least I am aware how our parent/adult relationship with our children/adolescents is constantly shifting as is our take on our sick dog) and there are always moments of doubt, which lead to new questions and hopefully answers. I am a pragmatic kind of person and like ‘fixing’ things/problems, but have come to learn that doing nothing/not making a decision right away, at times works best as things have a way of solving themselves…..the goats do respond to how you feel, I am sure of that. Tungsten is the same when I’m feeling poorly, maybe I smell differently and he can sense that. Do goats have a good sense of smell too? Flu is nasty and although it’s a good excuse to slow down, it is rather a drag.
    The house dress looks beautiful, lovely and warm and I like to imagine you wearing it, that’s all for now. love to you

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  16. patricia Avatar

    very touching post. the help provided. the goats’ sensitivity to your needs–and something about the possibility of the cloth fraying. that fraying would be beautiful. and i’m thinking about our own fraying as we get older–and yes, it is beauty full as well. sending you thoughts of well being.

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  17. beth Avatar

    There is so much good in this post. Be well dear Grace.

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  18. grace Avatar
    grace

    if you mean having someone nearby that knows goats?,,,
    well that’s HUGE. and she would, i am sure, come as
    quickly as she could if i had an emergency. just that in
    itself is so great.

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  19. grace Avatar
    grace

    yes. breath and hair. it’s a very loving gesture

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  20. grace Avatar
    grace

    it did. i just sat down. they just came, stood. did
    some kind of sensing i think. they just put their faces
    very close to mine.

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  21. grace Avatar
    grace

    the more i think about that gesture, the more i think it
    was a kind of curiosity on their part. something was
    very different about me. they were trying to get an
    understanding of that.

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  22. grace Avatar
    grace

    thanks Michelle. i wrote it down. but i get sick so
    rarely. if i got something to keep “on Hand”, it most
    likely would be years before the next occurance. stuff
    would be all outdated. so, i go from time to time. and
    was really so surprised that this was flu.

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  23. grace Avatar
    grace

    look
    see
    talk
    nothing more and nothing less.
    was Great.

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  24. grace Avatar
    grace

    well…i always hope that i don’t create a circumstance for
    the lesson of illness. am pretty good about sleep. pretty
    much sleep when i’m tired. or just want to “get away” for
    20 minutes. but i know what you mean and am looking.

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  25. grace Avatar
    grace

    you too.
    love

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  26. grace Avatar
    grace

    oh…so good to hear….
    and i smile.
    in my past, it was friend Honey Dove that kept me posted
    of astrological doings, but now, it’s Mo Crow.
    nice, huh.

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  27. grace Avatar
    grace

    the Goats do have a very good sense of smell, and also
    rely a lot on their sense of taste as well as touch of
    lips, tongue. even tho they don’t really want to eat it,
    they will often just like to grind away at a sleeve or a
    pant leg with their molars…just to understand it’s
    place in Things. sometimes they like to bite me a little.
    always only a little but it tells them things about how
    i’m made.
    the HouseDress is absolutely totally perfect. Very warm.
    and love back.

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  28. grace Avatar
    grace

    well…self fraying, in certain ways that’s ok. in others
    i am not ready for that yet. aesthetically, i can fray.
    am fraying. but uh….doing~ly no. can’t yet.

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  29. grace Avatar
    grace

    beth…thank you. may we All be Well. xoxo

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  30. Minka Avatar
    Minka

    Love this post….on all the levels already described above by the other commenters. Hope you are feeling better.

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  31. grace Avatar
    grace

    it’s nice that your comment brought me back here…to
    look again.it seems like a long time ago, now…

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