"I would like to continue from last night's talk.  We have discussed the three levels of the teacher relationship in terms of the student's development.  Tonight i would like to talk about whom we're relating to in the sadhana.  We have a sense of relating with somewhat ideal, ethereal being, who are known as Dorje Trolo or Karma Pakshi, people who have already existed, who have lived and died in the past.  How can we relate those people to the present situation?  And how is that different from worshipping Jesus Christ, for that matter?

That is an interesting question.  Dorje Trolo or Karma Pakshi represent the notion of the embodiment of the siddhas.  Siddha is a sanskrit word which refers to those who are able to overpower the phenomenal world in their own enlightened way.  A sidda is a crazy wisdom person.  Crazy Wisdom in Tibetan is yeshe cholwa.  Yeshe means "wisdom" and cholwa, literally, is "gone wild".  The closest translation for cholwas that we could come up with is "crazy" which creates some further understanding.  In this case "crazy" goes along with "wisdom"; the two words work together well.  So it is craziness gone wise rather than wisdom gone crazy.  So from that point of view, craziness is related with wisdom.

The notion of wisdom here is very touchy, and we will have to get into the technical aspect of the whole thing.  Wisdom is jnana in Sanskrit and yeshe in Tibetan.  Yeshe refers to perception or to enlightment, which exists eternally.  Ye means "primordial";  she means "knowing"  knowing primordially,  knowing already.  The idea is that you haven't suddenly acquired knowledge.  It isn't that somebody has just told you something.  Knowledge already exists; it is here and we are beginning to tune into that situation.  Such a thing actually does exist already.  Wisdom isn't purely manufactured by scholars and scientists and books.

So the notion of enlightenment is the same as that of wisdom.  Being a buddha is not so much being a great scholar who knows all about everything.  Being a buddha, being enlightened, is actually being able to tune our mind into that state of being which already exists, which is already liberated.  Our only problem is that we are covered over with all kinds of hiding places and shadows and venetian blinds…whatever we have covering us.  We are always trying to cover up.

As a result, we are known as confused people,  which is an insult.  We are not all that confused, studpid, and bewildered.  We have possibilities…more than possibilities.  We actually inherit fundamental wakefulness..all the time.  So that is the notion of enlightenment as well as the notion of yeshe.  We are eternally awake…primordially awake, cognitively open and insightful.  That's the notion of wisdom.

The notion of "crazy" is connected with individual situations.  When wisdom has been completely and thoroughly achieved, then it has to relate with something.  I has to relate with its own radiation, its own light.  When light begins to shine, it reflects on things.  That is how we know whether it is bright or dim.  Therefore, when light is very brilliant, when it reflects on things properly and fully, we know that there is some kind of communication taking place.   That communication is expressed by the intensity of that wisdom light shining through .  That communication is traditionally known as buddha-activity or compassion.

Compassion is not so much feeling sorry for somebody,  feeling that you are in a better place and somebody is in a worse place.  Compassion is not having any hesitation to reflect your light on things.  That reflection is an automatic and natural process, an organic process.  Since light has no hesitation, no inhibition about reflecting on things, it does not discriminate whether to reflect on a pile of shit or on a pile of rock or on a pile of diamonds.  It reflects on everything it faces.  That nondiscriminating reflection is precisely the nature of the relationship between student and teacher.  When the student is facing in the right direction,  then the guru's light is reflected on him.  And when he is unreceptive, when  he is full of dark corners,  the teacher's light is not fully reflected on him.  That light does not particularly try to fight its way into dark corners.

So that nonhesitating light reflects choicelessly all the time;  it shines brilliantly and constantly on things.  Craziness means not discriminating and being without cowardice or paranoia.  "Should I shine on this object, even though this other object is facing towards me?"…not at all.  Whoever needs to be subjugated is subjugated, whoever needs to be …..how does the line go?  Does anybody remember that line?  Maybe someone can read it out of the sadhana.

STUDENT:  I think it's "he subdues what needs to be subdued,  he destroys what needs to be destroyed, and he cares for whatever needs his care."

VIDYADHARA:  Thank you.  So the definition of crazy wisdom is that whatever is needed will be done.  What is not needed is not done."

 

There's a lot more. You can look at shambhala.org/teachings/view.php?id=131

all this and a herd name for Goats.

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4 responses to “Crazy Wisdom Chogyam Trungpa”

  1. Michelle in NYC Avatar

    In this case, goats are enlightened beings, reflecting upon what is. They are unlikely to turn away from what needs doing, and are incapable of covering over anything that needs attention. Most animals of what we humans refer to as the ‘lower orders’ are liberated in this way. How fortunate for them, I think. Your goat herd is most appropriately named. (http://shambhala.org/)

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  2. Liz Avatar

    Whatever is needed will be done …

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  3. Mo Crow Avatar

    (((Grace))) your care goes deep with love so fiercely tender

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  4. Saskia Van Herwaarden Avatar

    words, and what they hold
    I have always been bothered by the Dutch word ‘medelijden’ I would much rather feel ‘medeleven’ towards someone in a tight spot and vice versa, I would prefer they feel medeleven, not medelijden.
    I have always liked the word compassion and then reading it here, on a whim, I googled the etymology and it derives from Latin and it translates as ‘compassie’ AND ‘medelijden’ in Dutch….
    the reason I could use the word ‘medeleven’ was because it felt as if the other and I are on an equal level, I am living with the other, literally translated, meaning I feel for the other person’s suffering without condescension. ‘Medelijden’ has a ring of condescension to it.
    however I NOW know the words compassion and ‘compassie’ are in fact the same as ‘medelijden’ and my qualms about feeling superior are perhaps nothing to do with the words themselves, more about how I feel inside.
    if I can use the term compassion/compassie I can also say I feel ‘medelijden’ if I actually FEEL it, or can genuinely empathize, without condescension…
    so this post has taught me something about myself, which I had not considered properly
    your light shines on me as well Grace

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