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28 responses to “thinking about marks symbols”
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i think it would mean something completely different for them. and i think it would mean that there are only so many “symbols” out there in the world- not enough- to contain/represent all that there is inside of each unique combination of thoughts, history, creations, etc. that makes up each of the creatures we are.
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it almost looks like a fetus, and it seems to have a very primitive eye. doesn’t the concept of signature trigger something in you head.
this has a unique formlessness, probably not exactly the same anywhere else. unless you carried it in your head from somewhere else. these things are hard to know.LikeLike
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and i got distracted by children, and forgot to add that this is a beautiful symbol, it seems a combination of symbols, that the individual of you has created, and made by your hand, is completely yours because of the energy, thoughts, history you put into it.
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in sumi-e painting the painter attempts to paint the perfect circle in a single gesture & it is surprisingly difficult to do! Any mark that you make is your own even if the mark is copied as close to exactly as possible, there will be a little wobble here or a boldness there that identifies your hand, your wind spiral is a lovely and elegant signature motif!
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grace i think your ‘symbol’ would be fine to use even if others do too. it’s personal use, and won’t be the same every time. some people have the same name and they aren’t sued for using it…i read a judy martins blog, http://judys-journal.blogspot.com/ , and she runs into the name thing alot!
i use the VJ type symbol for Capricorn, because i am one and my initials used to be….vj no one has come after me yet.LikeLike
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no…i’m sure it wasn’t carried from elsewhere. it’s been
what, lets see, 20 some years since i began making that
mark and my odd little mind will always offer up information in dreams or other connections if i am wondering about something…will always answer me.
yes. it is a primitive eye. and for me is a primitive
life form, Spirit form. Wind is that to me. it is an elemental, but also breath, and really, i have always liked to think about the fact that maybe Wind includes all the breaths we all have taken in and exhaled, around the world, throughout time? i think maybe this is true. transformed and reconfigured, re molecule ized, yes…but
recycled, really.
anyway…
and it’s funny. all those years of making this mark with a pen on paper did not carry the significance that making this mark with cloth and stitch does. somehow, that is
more, uhhhhh serious. and also too….those figures seemed so much more “local” to me. even when i knew they were being taken to other countries…as in when i sold at the Artists Market in Eugene. for whatever reason, many
Japanese people liked them, bought them. but it was so
much more person to person. this whole thing of a Community that truly spans the planet is so much more.
and yes. again…i pretty much limit my self to Sprit
Cloth, to all of Us who frequent the mothership. i’m not
much for blog or web site cruising. so…chances are i
wouldn’t know? i just would feel really creepy if it
had deep significance to someone else….
anyway…thank you for your thoughts…..LikeLike
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Mo….yes. i know this to be so from all the drawing classes i took and also from when i taught kids. our mark is individual. our straight line, too. each unique like the whorls of our fingerprint.
THANK YOU for coming by to weigh in on this…i appreciate it a lot.LikeLike
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yes…this is true. and it is so interesting to me
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vicky..yes. i read judy’s post about that too.
maybe i am sensitized to this a lot because of living
in the midst of so many native persons here in the SW.
so much of what came to them from their experience of their traditional First Person existence of hundreds of years was and is so blithely appropriated by anyone who
just liked it. for instance the Zia symbol, which i really do love and would love to use. it’s on the
New Mex state flag even, every car dealership, insurance company logo. and without even a thought.
i am not at all worried about someone coming after me, but more of being insensitive. hmmmm.LikeLike
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it is a lovely symbol and i see no reason not to continue using it. it looks like someone reclining on water.
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well…that’s a wonderful image…actually, anything at
all about water is.
we’ll see about using. am thinking.LikeLike
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grace this so intrigued me i spent some time looking at various symbols online…curious how, where you may have pulled it from….the closest i’ve found is in really old….15th century old, illuminated manuscripts
http://www.flickr.com/photos/antonia_di_lorenzo/4562219047/
look at the bottom right….
i’ll keep the lookout because i am extremely curious as to how we “find” symbols and how they “find” us….
i think it’s fabulous and i’d keep using it.LikeLike
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and here is a wind man for you..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dawsonprintshop/2639535133/LikeLike
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Oh I think two things are possible at once: the symbol is unique to everyone who uses it, yes. In what they learn and project from it gradually over time. But also I see some of these marks – the stuff that doesn’t obviously fit in our collective repertoire – that stuff to me is remembered fragments from some other place or dimension. And people do find it in each other’s work, I think, from time to time. Don’t ever like to get too flakey all at once but I think of these things (not yours specifically) as soul pod markers. Or maybe soul pods form around a whole collection of symbols that form a whole “soul village”. So you wouldn’t be broadcasting to others with the same symbol but those with correspondences to other symbols that from disparate parts forms a viable energetic collective. I think it looks more like a writing character. A signature within a larger disembodied equation.
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oh bless your capable research mind! the whole thing IS interesting, isn’t it.
thanks, Serena and yes!, keep on the lookout!
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~a viable energetic collective~
i love all these thoughts…LikeLike
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well wouldn’t it be fabulous if you drew this over and over again in a previous life….or if you are still drawing it now…then….but then that is a whole time debate…
drawing it across lifetimes.LikeLike
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Grace- I had to laugh when I saw this questioning post on Face Book by Gretchen Rubin, author
HAPPINESS QUESTION: Do you have a personal symbol? What is it? My older daughter’s personal symbol is the daisy, mine is bluebird.
I didn’t read nay of the responses, yet!
http://www.happiness-project.com/happiness_project/
I believe I understand your concern about usage, but I also think you come from a genuine place…so all is well. There are many of us here on earth, it only makes sense that things may overlap from time to time.
I pause and bow in honor of your extreme thoughtfulness, it is so refreshing.LikeLike
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Also, inspired by Serena, I typed ‘symbols’ into google and got this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=symbols&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=wHH&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=3dg2Tu5N5NiIAtLPlbAI&ved=0CFUQsAQ&biw=1246&bih=569
There is a symbol for everything!!!
Forgot to say that I like yours 🙂 It seems snail-like…it seems very unfurling, about to happen – I like that.LikeLike
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Hi Grace,
You triggered the most interesting discussion – I am fascinated especially by the medieval calligraphy that Serena found.
I think you should most definitely use YOUR signature/symbol. And to refer to Jude’s (also most interesting) audio, maybe you draw it, draw it again…and maybe it developes into something new, old…whatever: interesting.
Ha, the teacher has spoken again …I am going to stop at once – I forgot, I’m on holiday!!
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Oh! i am in England again today!!!!!
yes. and also the ones that Nancy posted the link for…
i like the alchemical symbols….
keep your eye open, who knows what you might see where you are…
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okgrace… this is too weird … i make those doodles… always that spiral with a tail and then variations… it is not my signature…just a favorite doodle.
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but not with the two little cedilla like symbols inside.. mine are usually attached. anyway… its just sort of related to yours… yours is yours… so go for it. i like that you think of it as wind… i can see that. i think of it as unfurling fern.
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oknance too wierd.
well…go back and read Acey’s comment.LikeLike
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cedilla???????????like symbols? i had to look that word up. ok…it’s flanges.
forms repeat and yes. it is an unfurling fern
OR the unfurling of the coil of a nettle……same.
of the unfurling, breathing of anything at all really,
unfurling, breathing, MOVING, with the cedilla
i used to stare endless hours into the creek and watch
stuff go about in it’s life’s business…even mosquitoe
larvae…
How Great! is all this. i wish i was a brilliant mind that could synthesize all this and then pull in so much more and and and fling it back out…………LikeLike
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but grace…. that is exactly what you do… in your very poetic way!
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duh
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Hey Grace, I just went into my own followers and added your URL so I will get your posts and you don’t have to do anything. Saw the mark and yes, it fairly does equate to my painting…will wonders of connected never cease!
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