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this is Lucky Star.  June 16, 2013

This herd really belongs to my daughter.  She began with Snowbunny and another doe Daffodil i think in 2009.  The herd name is Crazy Wisdom which came from one of the Teachings of  Chogyam Trungpa,  a great Tibetan Buddhist, meditation master, teacher, and artist, founder of Naropa.   She lived and grew the herd some 50 miles from me until somewhere around 2012 when we took her 9 does and 2 bucks to California.   this move was a necessity, the result of a failed and toxic marriage.   in less than a year her job transfer fell through and we brought them all back Here as there was no other option.   8 of the does were pregnant as a result of a buck insurrection.  that first late spring and early summer,  14 kids were born here.  10 of which were bucklings.  all healthy, all very fine.   Last spring as a result of a deliberate breeding of two does,  6 kids were born.  3 doelings/3 bucklings.   The herd i talk about here is the result of all that.   i did not breed for this year as i have been unable to come to terms with selling the babies.  i don't know if i can.

The still stated intention is that once she finds the right place in California she will come for them.  How many is not known.  i might opt to keep some that have been born here.  i don't know.  i will only keep them if i can work through a way to breed and MILK.  otherwise,  she will take them all.

When she began,  we were spending a lot of time and energy thinking about living a self~sustaining lifestyle.  I was very involved in Sharon Astyk's  teachings…her book at the time…..                                  Depletion and Abundance  …  Life on the New Home Front  or,  One Woman's Solutions to Finding Abundance for Your Family while Coming to Terms with Peak Oil, Climate Change and Hard Times.  2008 New Society Publishers.    i was focused on off grid living and Growing food.  the Goats worked,  as did daughter's gift at Building Homes of alternative materials.  

So, it seems that all that was put on hold.  The dream is not gone.  But the Goats are here for my Safe Keeping  until whatever is Next appears.    

Nigerian Dwarf Goats were chosen because they are a small breed,  come into heat monthly and so some can be bred year round making it easy to stagger kidding, ensuring that the herd always has milking does.   Their milk has excellent taste and high butterfat, as high as 10% which is greater than full size dairy goats.  Nigerian Dwarves give between 1 and 8 lbs of milk a day.   The high butterfat means great cheese.

Building a good dairy herd requires conscious breeding.  Many people do not keep bucks, choosing instead to take an in heat doe TO a buck for a "driveway breeding".   this tho is hard work,  there is only a small window of hours when the doe will conceive and also means exposing your goats to  disease which is not common but not uncommon.  it's Easier to keep bucks.  the choice of buck comes from studying their lines.  you choose bucks with great milking dams going back generations.  and you choose for conformation also.  for instance, daughter had doe's that were tall, leggy.  so she bought the buck Tenzen from a breeder in Boston area.  he flew here as a baby.  but he is from the original line of Nigerians in this country and so closer to the breed's original form.   this corrects the height, while still improving the dairy aspects.   and the truth is that if you establish a herd with a solid and respected name,  if your offspring can be taken to  competitions like the State Fair and various shows and win or place well,  you will have a waiting list at each breeding.   people will WANT them  to improve their own herds.   if i were to be into showing these Goats,  i wouldn't have the angst about breeding,  the kids.  but, i'm not.  She can do it.  but at the other end of that, if you don't breed you don't have milk.  you can't make cheese.  

so….i have kept 6 of the doelings born here and 2 of the bucks.   Sunny Ray is the son of old Beautiful Gideon who won't have long left on this planet but is a magnificant buck.  and then little Nogal (Walnut, in spanish)  who i kept because he was the son of Buckwheat who was a very desired and specific breeding of my daughter's.  Buckwheat was born not long after she arrived in California.  She could not get him disbudded at the time and his horns were full and glorious and a problem.  Hence his move to Las Cruces to be herd sire there.  Nogal will carry his genetics for this herd.  and is much more gentle natured and tame than Buckwheat.  

this is as far as i can get today.  i'll add more in time.  but this is the basics of why the Goats are here. and a good time to journal it….going into their third April here.   enough for now.

8:47 p.m.  more.

 

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 June 15th, 2013  Nogal.  a buck goat.  kept.  intact.

 

 

 

 

 

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24 responses to “~ GOATS ~”

  1. jude Avatar

    after following along with all this for a while, i know i could never do all this.

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  2. patricia Avatar

    i’ve been following along on your journey for what–maybe 18 months–maybe a little longer. and reading this post–i’m SO struck with the change in tone–from the original posts. there’s confidence here. a knowing of things. the result of what you’ve experienced, observed and integrated. it feels like whole cloth to me. and i have to say again, referring to the previous post–that your goat family is absolutely beautiful. Healthy and content. well done, Grace.

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  3. Marti Avatar
    Marti

    I feel quite privileged to have watched this particular aspect of your life on the substation. During the 8 yrs that we have known each other, you have approached all that has held your interest, some of your own choosing, others given to you,(goats) with your utmost care, concern, hard work, study and devotion. No finer example of just going exists than what you achieve, have achieved, each and every day. You do all that you can, give yourself to what is required and even beyond and we see here, simply how it is a good and right life.

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  4. grace Avatar

    there have been times, less and less as it goes on, that i have thought this. I CAN’T DO THIS or even, I DON’T WANT TO DO THIS
    but then…i go out there. and sit on the step. and they come in their own time and put their noses into my face. Breathe me in. TAKE ME IN to them. to Them. and really, what is more worth doing?
    if you do not do dairy, i guess it’s not a question. but if you do, it very much IS. This land could not support a
    cow. So much more would be required. but a family of 4,
    two children, can be very well kept by two doe goats. Milk, yogurt, cheese and butter. and if you live somewhere that there is vegetation for browsing, then so economically. Goats Rule. it’s just a fact. and if you eat their meat, even more. This country (including me) is so fucked up about what is and is not food. we live in an artificial ILLUSION with what we eat. The majority of the planet doesn’t have the choice of an Illusion. Many on the planet starve. Goats are blessed beings.
    and the more i live with Them, the more i Believe in them, Trust them, Love them.

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  5. grace Avatar

    i take this from you, a former GoatWoman in a deep and
    true way.
    all that i wrote here today is what i knew from Jenny, the daughter. but yes. i have learned in this time and yes
    They have taught me, teach me.
    thank you so much for your “well done, grace”…i need it.
    i wrap it around me. there’s so much more to come.

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  6. grace Avatar

    ” a good and right life.”
    YES. this is all there is. a good and right life. and yes, as you say…some that i have chosen, some that has been set into my lap. including the safe keeping for a daughter.
    yes. all such a HUGE yes.
    but again…what is more worth doing?, i ask self?
    what would be a better Day?
    and in the end, nothing. This is GOOD. This is REAL.
    this is a RIGHT life.
    i am so glad that you witness this. through these years.
    You are my historian.
    Love,

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  7. grace Avatar

    same with sheep

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  8. jude Avatar

    i love them, would love them, but i know i cant handle it at this point and also. I have become vegan, so the food thing is a big question for me. i mull that over. food. what food is. if i raised goats, or sheep it would be for fiber. and maybe compost . and of course companionship. but realistically it wont happen.

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  9. grace Avatar

    it’s something to know, to accept, about our selves….what we realistically can and cannot do. i don’t know now. i am watching. looking. i am not vegetarian anymore. definately not vegan. to me, that is unrealistic. it relies on
    the illusion. but i don’t have judgements, either. Compost relies on animal shit. animal shit relies on animals.
    i need to refer to Lierre Keith’s writing again….
    The Vegetarian Myth…food, justice, and sustainability
    2009 Flashpoint Press
    to speak intelligently about all this. but animals create their own kind. it’s the way it is. and if we would choose it to be different because of dietary choices, then animals will disappear. along with them, their shit. which allows all the vegetation to grow unless we choose to rely on chemicals.
    Vegan is a singular personal choice. but it is not a choice that will support a planet that includes animals as we have known it. again…i need to refer to Lierre to speak intelligently. This is a HUGE question and requires HUGE commitment of spirit and thought. i am up for it.

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  10. jude Avatar

    probably I am speaking about personal choice here, because I have one. I feel better not eating meat. healthier. if i was starving i might eat anything.kill anuthing. i dont think eating meat is wrong. but also, i just think my life has taken a different course within the context of what it is. the whole world is fucked up really. i dont think it has anything to do with food. i think it has to do with money. business as usual.

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  11. grace Avatar

    and here it is. say it’s sheep. for Fiber.
    what if one spring you had 14 sheep born….and 10 of them were rams. male. what would you DO?
    it’s the QUESTION.
    the Navajo here would just consider it a blessing as all else is a blessing. they would be glad for the 4 ewes and be glad also for the meat.

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  12. grace Avatar

    it has to do with food. on a large scale.
    beyond personal choice.
    business as usual can change. if we change it.

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  13. Julie Avatar
    Julie

    I am so happy for this background, there are dynamics that were never clear to me but you are standing so strong and full of knowledge and experience up there at the Goat Blackboard that I get it now. Don’t you love the fact that while you are following what you love, you have actually taught yourself enough to know what you are doing!!?

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  14. jude Avatar

    nah. i dont think so. we can make a personal choice. but we cant change IT. and we can survive in spite of IT.

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  15. grace Forrest Avatar

    i love this comment. for many reasons. first because it gives me a sense of support for my fumbling way.
    and then..it’s acknowledging my effort, my oh so sincere effort to understand stuff. and that’s all i am doing, is really, trying to understand stuff. i have no opinions anymore. i am just trying to understand. this Planet offers things. we make of them what we can. that’s all.
    i smile at the thought of a Goat Blackboard. but it’s the Blackboard i have been given. so here i am. saying stuff. each of us will have to think. each of us will DISregard or regard and make of it what we can.
    but yes. i love the Planet first. and i love my daughter second. and through them, i have come to love GOATS. What to DO?, with that??????? i guess, WHAT does Love entail?

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  16. jude Avatar

    i dont know really. im only a clothmaker. that might be selfish.

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  17. jude Avatar

    yes, that is why i changed my mind. i can’t be that.

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  18. grace Avatar

    it’s a HUGE dilemma. i wish i didn’t have to think
    about it.

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  19. beth Avatar

    Thank you for this further explanation. As Patricia said, a change, a confidence I’d not felt before. But to be a placeholder for another’s dream… I’ve always struggled a bit with how you could do that with such devotion–the time and energy required. This is big huge love.

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  20. Dana Avatar

    All of these comments are so essential..dealing with the essence of things. Our relationship to the earth and the animals that share it with us is truly a foundation from which we build our lives. The kind of life we can have depends on that beginning. The choices you have made, Grace, and the love you have harvested from them express the essence of you. Thank you for offering a forum that touches on things that matter. Thanks to everyone for their lovely insights.

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  21. Julie Avatar
    Julie

    To answer your question, just look at the equation you wrote on the Goat Blackboard:
    (Love x Planet) + (Love x Daughter) = Love(Goats)

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  22. grace Avatar

    it is. it’s a big huge love. it is so big and huge
    that i always end up thinking it’s from many lifetimes.
    it doesn’t really make sense.

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  23. grace Avatar

    Dana…this is important…the comments are always important to me, every single one, always. but here we see it even more, how we all look closely and watch eachother living
    our lives. it’s such a beautiful thing to me. i love it
    very very much.

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